Few things for my new site

[Ondes]

Hello all, just need a bit of guidance regarding features for my new site.

Firstly, I need a script of javascript or flash or something so that I can have a collapsable iframe/frame.

Secondly, anyone know of some type of system that would allow me to have a site introduction (flash) play only once for each new visitor on my main index page, and have it use a cookie or something, so that it wouldn't play again for the duration of the session. (Maybe with an off button too in case cookies (if used) aren't enabled).

The site is being written in XHTML 1.1 as well.

Thanks all.

[wired076]

I will have a look at my programming book and see what I can remember in regards to this.

Why are you using frames??

Can I have a look at the site please??

[Ondes]

Ok thanks.

And truthfully, I don't really want to use frames, I'd prefer to use flash or something or js if it is possible (I'm not sure). So any ideas in that department would help. Also, my main directory is currently locked but I can probably arrange to open it so you can take a look after.

Thanks again.

[snoop1990]

I also strongly recommend NOT to use frames ! (there are several reason why not trust me)

The other thing is your idea of the one time video! If the video should play once per session you can do that by building a side entrance. (if the user enter the page the video starts and they can either watch it or skip it, at the end of the video or if they skip it they are redirected to the index page.)
Or you program your flash video so it do not repeat itself.

Your idea about setting a cookie is also possible (easily done with javascript) but I guess the other solutions are much simpler.

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[Ondes]

Thanks for the information.

What do you suggest instead of frames?

And if I were to do the cookie thing, what does it entail? (Where to get code, etc.) If it is just much simpler to do it the other way, I may just do that.

[bizzard]

why don't you use php instead of frames? just rename your HTML file to ".php" and add the line <? include 'filename.php' ?> with that frames can be avoided.

[Ondes]

The file is already a .php, as I have some included! I didn't even know PHP could be used for tables. I also do use a lot of CSS as XHTML 1.1 tends to require the stylization of the site externally/remotely.

My last question is, is there some php to make the php frames collapsable? (Ex: I push a button and the frame is hidden, so I have space for other things)

Thanks a million!

[Ondes]

I didn't even know PHP could be used instead of frames! My file is already a .php since I need PHP for a contact us form. I do also use CSS quite a bit as XHTML 1.1 shifts the focus to CSS nearly completely for the setup of the site.

My last question now is, is there a way to make the PHP frame collapsable? (Ex: I push a button and the frame is hidden, to make space for other things that are on the page?)

[Ondes]

My reply isn't where it is supposed to be!

I didn't even know PHP could be used instead of frames! My file is already a .php since I need PHP for a contact us form. I do also use CSS quite a bit as XHTML 1.1 shifts the focus to CSS nearly completely for the setup of the site.

My last question now is, is there a way to make the PHP frame collapsable? (Ex: I push a button and the frame is hidden, to make space for other things that are on the page?)

[Ondes]

Once again I don't know why my replies keep going to the wrong place, but I needed to ask - will the php include function work with external links. What I need to display is not on my server...

[snoop1990]

Originally Posted by Ondes

What do you suggest instead of frames?

Originally Posted by bizzard

why don't you use php instead of frames? just rename your HTML file to ".php" and add the line <? include 'filename.php' ?> with that frames can be avoided.

I totally agree with bizzard on this point php is much more comfortable than frames will ever be. You maybe also want to use css to make you html or php even more dynamic !

[snoop1990]

Originally Posted by Ondes

Once again I don't know why my replies keep going to the wrong place, but I needed to ask - will the php include function work with external links. What I need to display is not on my server...

We are very sorry for the confusion, but he recently had a time issue on the server, so the server jumped about two or three days ahead, that issue is fixed by now but the post I did (during the server was on the wrong date) are not sorted alright. ...

But the integration.
php is dynamic, each side is rendered as a user requests it. So you can define an index.php file and inside this file you tell php to load the different parts of your side, like you do with frames. Define a base and tell which files to load, it is nearly the same, but php is much more, like the contact script you mentioned and so on.

[Ondes]

Firstly, thanks for sorting out the issue and responding to my PM.

Secondly, would it be like this - create an index.php and inside that, define the external site I need (Example, Google.ca) and then use an include to include the index.php? If so, how do I define in the index. If I mixed things up I apologize, just want to make sure!

Thanks again!

[snoop1990]

I am not sure what exactly you want me to show/ tell you, but to replace Frames you can do it like this:

PHP Code:

<html>
<head>
<title>example</title>
</head>
<body>
<table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
  <tr>
      <td valign="top">
      <? include("head.html") ?>   // we include the head.html
      </td>
  </tr>
      <td>
      Here we have the main textfile, 
      there is a lot of text 
      and more important a link 
      <a href="link.php">Link</a> 
    </td>
  </tr>
</table> // so the table layout is completed 
<? include("footer.php"); ?> //but we want to add a footer
</body>
</html>

I hope this is what your looking for.

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[Ondes]

Thank you for the code however I am not sure if it is going to work for what I need. I need to display other sites, not headers or footers. Example... I have a fully functioning page, and in the center I show a frame or something of another site.

Thanks again.

[joeally]

What about iframes. Search iframe in Google this can achieve this without the headache you get from frames (the worst tag in HTML). You can just use them in anywhere in any webpage. Doesnt have to be in a special frameset doctype

[cfeedback]

Hey, not to hijack your thread but I'm finding all this very interesting as I was planning on using frames too. I'm good with computers in general but a complete newbie when it comes to web design (I'm basically just playing around with a WYSIWYG editor and a phpbb3 board). How hard would it be to setup something like this site? It looks like they use Mambo (?) - PEBA - Home

It wouldn't need to be nearly as fancy but I'd want links, on the left, a middle "frame" which would pull articles that are somewhere else on the site, and another "frame on the right with current status, etc.

[snoop1990]

Originally Posted by cfeedback

Hey, not to hijack your thread ...

Please! I opened up a new threat for you, (cfeedback - A side like PEBA) just to give you the answer you want and give Ondes the space for his answers.

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